With his tale of drug addiction and strip clubs, the newly redeemed Coy was a perfect fit for Calvary's edgier message. The last thing we need to do is turn on each other over this because first, There is nothing new under the sun Second, we have a whole unbelieving world out there that will be looking for an explanation and answers and we are focused on discrediting each other and being right??? God bless you Ft Laud peeps who drop in. She subsequently said she does not want the abuse made public and even asked for the record to be destroyed, though she was informed that that would be against the law. I dont think it was ever told. Night all (everyone whos still up). Diane Coy is on Facebook. And Ill be glad to talk with you via Skype, FaceTime, or in person about my comments if we ever happen to be close enough to each other. I also sometimes am forgetful, as everyone can be, that I should have rejected the conversation after the first or second admonition of your errors. Let him be restored to the churchs love. Yes I am disappointed but Bob is a man. You dont have any morals.your life is a lie. http://watch-unto-prayer.org/rapture.html#propaganda, Inasmuch, therefore, as the opinions of certain [orthodox persons] are derived from heretical discourses, they are both ignorant of Gods dispensations, and of the mystery of the resurrection of the just, and of the [earthly] kingdom which is the commencement of incorruption, by means of which kingdom those who shall be worthy are accustomed gradually to partake of the divine nature (capere Deum ); and it is necessary to tell them respecting those things, that it behoves the righteous first to receive the promise of the inheritance which God promised to the fathers, and to reign in it, when they rise again to behold God in this creation which is renovated, and that the judgment should take place afterwards. (Against Heresies, Book V, 30.4). Wait, what? Im a wretched sinful person. Bob Coy may not have been a good pastor but he was a great Bible teacher (amalekites, perizzites, canaanites OH MY!) daughter, Oh Beacon of Insight Perhaps, if thou deemest it, A Blog to Enlighten the teeming masses in darkness lost, misled, and disillusioned Might See and hear Truth from on High Truth from on Hugh coming straight and unvarnished from He and You. #473, great post. just because others in the Body of Christ hold to different conclusions regarding aspects of theology doesnt require them to be wrong. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. MLD wrote: so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. Coy sales millions and that has all changed. BE TRUTHFUL AND HONEST, OR YOULL NEVER EXPERIENCE TRUE HEALING! The reason for the resignation is a "moral failing," according to Calvary Chapel leaders, as reported by the Christian Post. Ill let the matter stand. CCFtl was the only Bible based church for miles. What about Calvary Chapel West Palm Beach, did that one survive the CC Florida curse? he told everyone that if they left because he left You are lost! That was where I thought I was saved. There is little doubt that the makers intended for us to be concerned. I am pointing out the fact that giving flawed man too much power and authority is corrupting in both politics and religionno matter how specially anointed they claim they are or how endorsed they are by Chuck Smith etc. I cant agree with this statement at all. In 2007, Christianity Today spoke to numerous Calvary pastors across the country. "We need answers.". I meant no disrespect. If it continues and endures it is Gods church and bigger than any one man to the consternation of the circling vultures of which this website is replete with! None. # 8. I have to be totally confident that Im right. It scares me when I read he should still be the pastor. Any ideas? Our goal is to help you along your discipleship journey and enjoy a full life as a follower of Christ.. So if the message was right the hearing and application of that message will produce the right fruit! Read his account here and give me the answer: http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/John-Macarthur-and-the-Blood-of-Martin-Luther-King.html. This is where the church will be tested, was it Bob Coys church or the Lords church? The sin that I spoke about happened 24 years ago, but the hurt caused is still fresh in my heart. An ongoing issue. The truth is we dont know very much and the only thing we can do is acknowledge what little facts we have here on earth: 1. Many members expressed disappointment, encouragement, and hope on the church's Facebook page. Exodus 20:14 You shall not commit adultery. Other verses you should delve into are Leviticus 20:10 , Proverbs 6:32 , Matthew 19:9, Lets Look at Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. Hes aiming for restoration. 16 The latter do so out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. The inner circle or big givers got to have dinner with DC and BC. I also posted a Youtube of BC at Liberty University at last yrs graduation ceremony. you will know if youre a preterist scripture denying disciple of Calvin or a Bible believing follower of Jesus!. 1828 edition of Websters. I do have issue with his lies, spending money on mistresses, and exposing his wife to STDs. If you are having trouble keeping your hands off the ladies, just stop it. Just saying. He confessed to his moral failing and is focusing his time on repairing his relationship with God and his family., My headline says resigned b/c thats the info I was givenquite different than fired, The official press release says resigned. Thank you for the many years you have pastored Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, through your words and Gods grace my husband got saved. The worship leader left a few months back with no explanation. I think it is worth reading. The church finds her visible, yet imperfect, expression in local congregations where the Word of God is preached in its purity and the sacraments are administered in their integrity; where scriptural discipline is practiced, and where loving fellowship is maintained. I did. The cost is too high for all involved. Plus, listen to Greg Laurie talk about the situation on Pastors Perspectiveclearly the moral failure wasnt that Coy was driving solo in the carpool lane. Lets not use this thread for our personal theological musings, please. And so are you. Mary, Of course I believe in the return of Jesus I dont believe in a rapture beforehand and I do not believe in a 1,000 yr earthly reign afterwards. True repentance bears fruit. If I were in sin, my church would handle it and those who needed to know would know. Instead, the pastors Smith installed in his hundreds of megachurches, which are similar to Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, had nearly unlimited power over budgets, personnel, and message. By the end of that harrowing call on August 20, 2015, police knew the accused predator was no ordinary suspect. Really? vimeo.com. Im sure that there are many churches in the FtL area that, while not mega in size, would be a good fit for many of you in the work of the ministry. Sounds like you have job security then. Thanks for enriching us. Flynn, youre like a bull in a china shop. In my opinion, if he did this [to one victim], it's just a question of how many others are out there. Evidently the vast reach doesnt include responsibility to inform all those reached. I wonder if MLD has ever been tempted, and is not realizing that anyone of us could fall given the right circumstances. There of course will be natural consequences for his sin (as there for all of us) when we too sin, but his will be on a much bigger stage. Which is precisely why I asked for suggestions several, several times. The Bible, uniquely and fully inspired by the Holy Spirit, is the supreme and final authority on all matters on which it speaks. It falsely teaches that a person must walk well enough to prove that they were saved. Im not going to print anything that I cant verify, but I have the same fears you do. It's still not clear how Coy's sexual indiscretions came to light in 2014. Is all sin equal to God? "Typically, how it goes in these cases is you have a violator in the church, but the leaders will have this notion that if he repents, he's forgiven, and then we don't have to talk about it any more," says Leander James, who specializes in church child abuse cases. The covering tells me that whatever Bobs moral failures wereit warrants protection for the Body. Bob Coy is a man.one of the main problems with sheep is that they start to put too much into the pastor, instead of putting it all on the Lord. I dont know if I can remember everything I said. 32 This Jesus God raised up, and of that we all are witnesses. We have to consider this each time we place anyone near to or above God. She confirmed the story in stomach-churning detail. I have read here for many years, but only post occasionally. The only thing that covers ALL of us who are fallen to begin with is the Blood of The Lamb of God which was shed at Calvary and that covers Pastor Bob right now too ! If I was a Calvinist I would still punch you in the blog-mouth with your silliness. Lots of stories here. View the profiles of people named Diane Coy. That shows you how much they initially pledged. We are called to love and forgive. Police say Thomas has admitted to the abuse (though his criminal trial is pending). If the congregation projects their own meaning onto what moral failure meanswellthere are as many meanings as congregants and not a one really knows what happened. And they are legion. "When Chuck Smith died, there was nothing left to hold back all the competing factions," church critic Michael Newnham says. I craved the emotional and physical support I wasnt getting. he could always go back to Vegas as a comedy act. The detective told her that he couldn't destroy the files, but he closed the case that day. In 2017, he was accused of sexually abusing a four-year-old girl. I reacted in context of numerous other people who commented shortly before you who apparently excused Coys behavior or attacked people here for discussing the effects and ramifications of those choices. So, the next time she walks by, dont give a 2nd glance. My parents are Catholic believers. 3. Sauder, a married father of three, has been a minister since 2004 and on staff at Calvary for 14 years, according to the churchs website. Bob asked me to remove that message, but, I completely agree. Hugh, You showed nother in John 6. "Religious leaders have a tremendous amount of power over their flock," says Scott Thumma, a professor of sociology of religion at Hartford Seminary who has studied the Calvary movement. Yes, Praise God He has, but forgiveness does not always cancel consequences. So 100 percent of all complaints should be at those in church leadership who leaked the news. Mary! I actually do not answer yes to all your questions. Even though Bode needed surgery, he wasnt anxious about it. I cant find it on the backend. Indeed, police records show no progress on the case until eight months later, on April 4, 2016, when Coy's young accuser showed up at Coral Springs Police headquarters. He boasted of a vast media reach. He informed his congregation 2 weeks before he left- leaving them for over 1 1/2 yrs thinking he was building a new church for them. But then, in April 2014, he resigned in disgrace after admitting to multiple affairs and a pornography addiction. Im not too concerned about Bob Coy right now. David did not have the risen Jesus supposedly living in his heart, nor the power and anointing of the holy spirit that they claim, as current day proponents of the good news. Facebook gives people the power to share. They are the ones truly in need of prayer. He should have been honest and asked for a divorce. THAT pastor contacted the board. One of the best you could find in a mega church. Lorenzo, Ive read all your posts and you are so full of hate and . At least youre good for keeping a thread alive, thats got to be worth something in the next life. Show me one person who has not or does not. Sin is sin. Then Outreach Pastor Chet Lowe specifiedto the congregation that Coy "committed adultery with more than one woman" and "committed sexual immorality, habitually, through pornography.". I speak with the people right out of the Bible , MLD wrote: Yet Andy made about 30 comments after saying it wasnt worth talking to me. So I would say there is a different parrot on this post and its the parrot that mimics a heretic named John Calvin! Someone earlier said that porn is a symptom. I would say this before you do anything , cry out to the Lord on your own and I mean CRY OUT!! My prayers are for them that they dont fall away, that they dont dismiss this and purely look the other way. Hopefully you will send this message you posted, to them in email. No bitterness here. The abuse lasted until she was a teenager, she told the cop. This website is, usually, dominated by people that hold to one very narrow view of eschatology. He's an engaging storyteller "somewhere between Billy Graham and Billy Crystal," the Miami Herald once suggested with an easy laugh and a voice that excitedly rises into high nasal registers. you really are a gossip monger. I watch and listen at work, family gatherings, wherever it might be the way married men will talk to women who are not their wives, the sexual jokes, the sexual innuendos, telling private stories about themselves and their wives. Reforming catholicism doesnt work. "They have been at war ever since.". 1 JOHN 1:8 If we claim to be without sin,we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. The Apostle Peter in Acts 2 at Pentecost states that Christ sitting on Davids throne is a present day event. MLD, so satan has been bound over that 2000 years? Not only of church/pastors in my past, but unfortunately, I know too well the pain Diane Coy is feeling having been there myself. Which church did you go to in that was a John Macarthur affiliated church? You surely mustve know that stealing was wrong or dealing drugs was wrong or fornicating was wrong etc. and they wonder why we need blogs, Blessings and sleep well big brotherlove you. I know He is not finished with them yet and I will always believe in His promises to never leave or depart from them! My husband and I were members of Calvary Chapel Ft. Lauderdale for 14 years, we left 7 years ago to move to South Carolina..We loved Pastor Bob and his family and what he and Pastor Fidel did to bring Calvary to where it is today it is amazing. It is just people like we PhoenixPreacher-ites who dont follow the rules that leave. Literally, from the time of my outcries it took 10 years, many spiritually manipulated and demonized women, and a pregnant young woman (not his wife) to cause the church and his wife to finally kick him out. "Our former pastor was caught in sin," Lowe said April 16, according to the Sun Sentinel. I hope in time Bob will have someone reach out to him as I have dear people and pastors reach out to me. Unlike many Protestant churches, which set up powerful boards of elders to oversee ministers, Calvary used a management style Smith called the "Moses method. And the leak from the board was no doubt insurance against a coup detat of bob-loyalists attempting to unseat the floundering-shell-shocked and in charge for the very first time board. Someone else may have more info on this subject. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and SHALL REIGN WITH HIM A THOUSAND YEARS. Please provide verse my bible does NOT say bar code. There are a lot of conversations we need to haveand I have some folks working on those conversations for the coming week. How is asking for prayer casting a stone about something for which he has admitted? No, your position has replaced Jesus Christ who is the sum and substance of all prophecy, with the nation state of Israel. . He wasnt speaking about cannibalism or transubstantiation! That passage is no more teaching dispensationalism than ice hockey rules. You have to reject the Old Testament. Thats getting copied and pasted and saved to be used a lot in the future , Gomer MLD, I would love to meet you someday, as you are the only man I have heard of who does not struggle with this in some way.. We who are conservative Christians love to lecture the world about their sins. Again, welcome. 'Jesus Revolution' leaves out the tough stuff but gets the music right, Sacked chaplain to appeal after losing employment tribunal case. (It's unclear if he worked there.) A core of my current belief system is that none are truly transformed when they are saved. MLD, I think the Whittenburg door is blocking your ability to understand scripture, Jesus said, do this in memory of me in John 6 when he spoke to them of eating his flesh and drinking his blood, he told them after the crowds left that he was speaking to them spiritually! He was the Passover lamb that they would be internalizing when he died on the cross for their sins! What makes a Pastor anyway? It should take time and healing. This is a blog for scoffers, haters and mockers! Martin Luthers Disciple says: So Gary, why do you bring up the Lutheran thing. You must have wrote it after I closed the thread. We have gone through this struggle around here. Ok. we still want to see evidence. Silence. http://pompanobeachfl.gov/pages/department_directory/development_services/planning_and_zoning_division/pdfs/maps/city_map.pdf, http://www.city-data.com/zipmaps/Pompano-Beach-Florida.html. Moe-Thanks for clearing that up. Read Daniel 4 v.16 and let seven periods of time pass over him. Florida Megachurch Pastor Resigns Due To 'Moral Failure'. I havent seen anyone here gloating or rejoicing in his fall. If his marriage survives and I hope it does Bob will have to spend the rest of his days on his knees begging their forgiveness and thanking God for giving especially her too him. 15 And the LORD will utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with His scorching wind will He shake His hand over the River, and will smite it into seven streams, and cause men to march over dry-shod. I have heard the asst Pastors dont make a lot of $-maybe that will all change now. the church sits on the new Mcnab which is an extension of Cypress Creek Road people confuse the two all the time. BD, the content of what Im stating cannot be denied, I have dialogued many Cavinists and when push comes to shove these are the things they believe, why are they embarrassed by these teachings, or try to deny them. There is blood on my sword. If you answered yes to all 7 questions you are a Preterist Scripture denying Calvinist! Let the people of God rally to those who are hurting and those who have been sinned against. Only God can recover that man from what the enemy has so carefully, and with precision timing, orchestrated to bring dishonor to Gods kingdom. Right now I agree that the church in Florida needs to rally around Bobs wife and children while at the same time taking necessary steps in church discipline towards Bob that he would overcome these sins and salvage his marriage and the relationships with his children if thats still possible.